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NLP667 - Where Coaching is Headed (and How to Stay Ahead) with Jason Phillips

Fri, 18 Apr 2025

In this episode of The Next Level Health & Fitness Podcast, I’m joined by someone who’s been a mentor and friend to me for over six years — Jason Phillips. Jason is the founder of NCI (Nutritional Coaching Institute), a powerhouse in the coaching and certification space.

We dove deep into the current state of the coaching industry, where it’s heading, and how to actually stand out in a saturated space. One of the biggest topics we covered was Jason’s bold move to buy back NCI after selling it last year — the behind-the-scenes story, the lessons he learned, and what led him to step back in as owner.

Jason also dropped an exclusive scholarship opportunity for listeners looking to level up their coaching skills through NCI — a limited-time chance to join at a massive discount.

We also hit on the mindset piece — specifically, how clients can develop more patience in their journey and why that’s the game-changer when it comes to long-term results.

This one’s packed with wisdom, business insights, and real talk.

 

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 Covid's Impact: Rise of Online Coaching

04:38 Prime Opportunity for Dedicated Coaches

09:01 Coaching: Connection Beyond Communication

13:25 Respecting Client Investment and Experience

15:32 Jason: Versatile Business Coach

20:25 Active Shooter Alert at FSU

22:24 Business Sale Driven by Burnout

26:04 "NCI: Execution & Support Focused"

30:03 "Proven Success in Gym Growth"

31:12 "Coaching: Business vs. Transaction"

34:15 "Coaches' Success Tied to Growth"

37:56 Evolving Expertise: Learning from the Past

41:45 Rethink Business Education Priorities

45:08 "Building a Genuine Coaching Community"

48:55 "Connection and Generosity"

51:27 "Subscribe and Share, Please"

NLP666 - Peptides 101: Unlocking Recovery, Fat Loss & Longevity

Tue, 15 Apr 2025

In this solo episode, I’m breaking down one of the most talked-about tools in the health optimization world right now—peptides.

From healing faster to building lean muscle, improving fat loss, enhancing sleep, and even slowing down the aging process… peptides are powerful. But they’re also misunderstood, under-regulated, and often misused. So in this episode, I’m walking you through exactly what peptides are, how they work, the most popular ones in each category, and both the pros and cons of using them.

This is a no-BS, educational breakdown of everything you need to know before exploring peptides as a tool for better health, performance, or aesthetics.

I also cover some legal and sourcing realities—because here’s the truth: most peptides aren’t FDA-approved, and you’ll only find them labeled for “research purposes only.” This isn’t an endorsement. It’s a breakdown to help you make smarter, more informed decisions.

 

What I Cover in This Episode:

  • What peptides are and how they’re different from hormones or steroids
  • Legal disclaimers and how they’re commonly sourced
  • Growth hormone peptides: CJC-1295, Ipamorelin, MK-677
  • Fat loss peptides: AOD 9604 and Tesamorelin
  • Healing peptides: BPC-157 and TB-500
  • Anti-aging + cognitive peptides: GHK-Cu (Copper peptide), Epitalon, Semax, Selank
  • Mitochondrial optimizer: MOTS-c and why it’s a game-changer for metabolic health
  • How to stack peptides and what to avoid
  • Side effects, risks, and what to consider before diving in

 

Links & References:

  • Biological Activities and Safety of Citrus spp. Essential Oils - Click Here
  • Essential role of TRPC6 channels in G2/M phase transition and development of human glioma - Click Here

 

Final Take:

Peptides can be a powerful tool—but they’re not a magic bullet. If you’re training hard, eating right, sleeping well, and want to push to the next level, they might offer that extra edge. Just make sure you’re doing it smart, and not chasing shortcuts.

 

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Host Brad Jensen – @thesoberbodybuilder

Next Level Nutrition – @mynextlevelnutrition

 

Episode Timestamps

00:00 "Peptides: Unapproved but Legally Sold"

04:38 Compounding vs. Big Pharma Conflict

07:44 Benefits of Growth Hormone

13:31 MK677's Effects on Body Composition

16:51 Water Retention from Low Dose?

18:30 Health Supplement: Benefits and Considerations

23:35 "GLP1s and Peptide Therapy Debate"

27:03 GHK-CU: Skin and Anti-Aging Benefits

28:14 Copper Peptides for Hair and Healing

32:39 Growth Hormones and Water Retention

34:41 Success with BPC and TB500

40:13 GLP1s Fat Loss: Efficacy Concerns

42:03 "Peptides vs. Steroids: Health Debate"

45:11 "Join the Daily Wellness Movement"

NLP665 - Addiction, Redemption & the Power of Coaching -  My Interview on Mind Pump

Fri, 11 Apr 2025

In this special re-airing, I’m bringing you my powerful conversation from Mind Pump – the #1 fitness podcast in the world. This episode was originally recorded for their show, but it was too impactful not to share here with The Next Level community.

We go deep into my story—how I went from rock bottom in addiction to building a life rooted in purpose, health, and service. I open up about the darkest chapters of my past, the moment everything changed, and the work it took (and still takes) to stay on the path of growth and integrity.

We also dive into the current state of the health and fitness industry—where it’s headed, what’s broken, and what truly works when it comes to transformation. This isn’t just about macros or workouts. It’s about coaching people to rise to their full potential—physically, mentally, and emotionally.

Whether you’re a coach, someone on your own transformation journey, or just love raw, real conversations—you’re going to feel this one.

 

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Host Brad Jensen – @thesoberbodybuilder

Mind Pump - @mindpumpmedia

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 "Transformation Through Diet and Discovery"

06:33 Smuggling Steroids from Mexico

14:00 "Functioning Addict's Job Journey"

17:56 Relapse and Recovery Struggles

23:36 "Danger of Relapse Realization"

28:53 Descent Into Drug-Induced Paranoia

32:11 Car Vomit and Funeral Delay

37:02 "Rock Bottom and Recovery"

43:11 Overcoming Addiction to Launch Business

50:13 "Sharing My Journey of Hope"

56:09 Sobriety: Path to Self-Discovery?

01:01:29 Gym Judgement While Hiding Addiction

01:07:24 Zoom Coaching Enhances Client Connection

01:12:37 Balancing Family, Self, and Health

01:16:00 Overcoming Addiction: A Personal Reflection

01:20:14 "Alcoholism: The Socially Accepted Struggle"

01:24:14 "Content Creation: Embracing Criticism"

NLP664 - TRT Acne, Fat Loss Soreness, Deficit sleep issues, Coaching vs Therapy & More Q & A

Tue, 08 Apr 2025

In this month’s Q&A episode, Brad and Craig dive into your questions and keep it real with no fluff—just honest insight and actionable advice.

We cover a wide range of topics, including:

  • Why you might be getting extra sore in a calorie deficit and how to adjust your training accordingly
  • What to do when life feels like you’re chasing your tail and stuck in circles
  • The hardest things we’ve ever done—and what we learned from them
  • How to deal with acne after starting testosterone replacement therapy (TRT)
  • What to do after a bad day (or weekend) of eating—without spiraling
  • The key differences between therapy and coaching and how to know which one you need
  • Whether it’s time to reverse back to maintenance calories if your sleep is seriously suffering

This one’s a mix of mindset, hormones, lifestyle, and coaching wisdom. If you’ve ever had one of these questions cross your mind, this episode is for you.

 

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Host Brad Jensen – @thesoberbodybuilder

Co-Host Craig Smith - @greatestdaymindset

Next Level Nutrition – @mynextlevelnutrition

 

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Uneven Arm Size Story

05:45 Shifting Competition Outcomes

11:56 "Scholarship Winners' Dedication Celebrated"

20:08 Therapy Blending with Coaching

25:50 Steroid Use and Health Considerations

27:29 "Estrogen Regulation and Acne Causes"

32:17 Coaching Success: Trust and Accountability

41:11 "Revisit Past Positive Habits"

42:59 Sleep Issues & Calorie Deficit Correlation

51:42 Adjusting Workout Intensity and Habits

56:29 Overcoming Perceived Porn Addiction

59:22 "Palpable Darkness and Relationship Strains"

01:06:19 "Dark Energy: A Slippery Slope"

01:09:43 Subscribe and Share Request

NLP663 - From the Depths to Purpose: Treavor Hawkins’ Comeback Story

Fri, 04 Apr 2025

In this powerful in-studio episode, I’m joined by Treavor Hawkins — an active-duty military member and competitive bodybuilder who’s survived two serious suicide attempts. His story is raw, real, and incredibly inspiring.

Treavor takes us through the darkest moments of his life and how they became the catalyst for emotional, mental, and spiritual transformation. From the depths of hell to a life filled with purpose, Treavor now uses his voice to uplift others through his own podcast and message.

We dive into:

  • The turning points that changed everything
  • How fitness became his anchor
  • His emotional and spiritual growth
  • The power of vulnerability and purpose

This is more than a comeback — it’s a reminder of what’s possible when you refuse to give up.

If this hit home, share it with someone who needs it — and don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review.

 

Treavor Hawkins Email - treavor.hawkins@gmail.com

 

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Order from Cured Supplement

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